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If you had told us just 4 days agone that the Biden administration was funding surreptitious bio labs in Ukraine of all places, we would not have believed y'all. Aye, I don't remember we're going to put that on TV. No thanks.

So, if you told us that non merely did the administration fund these secret bio labs in Ukraine, only that they then failed to secure the deadly contents of those labs before the Russian invasion—an invasion they knew was coming, an invasion they helped encourage—if you had told united states of america that four days ago, nosotros would have dismissed you as a nut. It was just too preposterous. We will not want anything to do with a story like that. In that location was no way it could be true. It was also far out. In any case, nosotros already knew for a fact that that story was imitation. How do we know that? Because we read USA Today, America's newspaper.

Within hours of the Russian invasion, USA Today published a rebuttal to all those crazies who were yammering on well-nigh secret Ukrainian bio labs. Here was the headline: "Fact cheque: False claim of US biolabs in Ukraine tied to Russian disinformation campaign."

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The U.S. Department of State is seen on January 6, 2020 in Washington, DC. 

The U.S. Department of Land is seen on Jan 6, 2020 in Washington, DC. (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

So, if you look carefully at the story—and we did because nosotros were interested—you detect that this fact check was sourced to Ukrainian government unnamed officials and so Biden State Section officials. These were not exactly objective sources on this subject field, but still the story seemed definitive. It was totally emphatic. "Russia has teamed up with People's republic of china to farther amplify the false merits of U.Southward. labs in Ukraine."

OK. U.s.a. Today says it'due south Russian disinformation. Perchance it is. On to the next story, only the fact checks didn't end. That was weird. We kept seeing the same check over again and over again. It was almost similar despite countless official description, some people refused to believe the Biden administration. They preferred Russian propaganda instead and we assume they must be QAnon members. We assume that considering Strange Policy Magazine told u.s.a. that. According to Strange Policy, QAnon, whatever that is, was frantically disseminating "fake claims of U.S. bio warfare labs in Ukraine."

Those labs obviously didn't exist. It was all simply some other prevarication from the Russians who lie for a living. So the Eu... weighed in, throwing its credibility behind the same merits. These are conspiracy theories, the EU told us, they're lies spread by Putin. An EU spokesmen so reminded us that, "the credibility of information provided by the Kremlin is in full general, very doubtful and depression." That was skilful to know.

"Russian disinformation has a rails tape of promoting manipulative narratives about biological weapons and alleged hush-hush labs."

Aye. Nosotros're not going to do a segment about hugger-mugger labs in Ukraine. Last thing we want to do on this show is traffic in Russian disinformation spread by QAnon, so we took a pass on that story. And that'southward where things stood until yesterday when we happened to melody in to a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Toria Nuland was testifying so nosotros were interested. Nuland was 1 of the people who brought us the Iraq War, never apologized for that and kept getting promoted because that's how DC works. Toria Nuland is at present Joe Biden'due south Under Secretary of State in accuse of Ukraine and she knows a lot about Ukraine.

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Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland testifies before a Senate Foreign Relation Committee hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC.

Undersecretary of State for Political Diplomacy Victoria Nuland testifies before a Senate Foreign Relation Committee hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

In 2014, Toria Nuland engineered a coup in Ukraine in the name of democracy, of course. And then, she is a highly informed source almost Ukraine. So, she was having this colloquy with Senator Marco Rubio of Florida during her testimony, and at one point, Rubio took a tack that we were not expecting at all. He asked Nuland if Ukraine had biological weapons.

We never imagined Ukraine would accept biological weapons. Why would Ukraine have bioweapons? And then, it seemed similar a pretty foreign question, but it wasn't half as shocking as the respond he got. Hither'southward what Toria Nuland said.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO: Does Ukraine have chemic or biological weapons?

VICTORIA NULAND: Ukraine has a biological research facilities, which, In fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to gain control of. So, we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can foreclose any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.

Does Ukraine have biological weapons? Ugh, Ukraine has biological research facilities. What? Y'all mean secret bio labs similar the secret bio labs that Ukraine definitely doesn't have? Ukraine has those? Yes, it does. And not simply does Ukraine take secret bio labs, Toria Nuland said, whatever they're doing in those labs is and then dangerous so scary that she is, "quite concerned" that the so-chosen inquiry material inside those bio labs might fall into the hands of Russian forces.

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Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland testifies before a Senate Foreign Relation Committee hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC. 

Under Secretary of State for Political Diplomacy Victoria Nuland testifies before a Senate Foreign Relation Committee hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

Try not to apply profanity on the air to describe our reaction. Our jaws dropped, let's leave it there. Nether oath in an open up commission hearing, Toria Nuland just confirmed that the Russian disinformation they've been telling us for days is a lie and a conspiracy theory and crazy and immoral to believe is, in fact, totally and completely true.

Woah, yous don't hear things like that every day in Washington. Talk nearly a showstopper and a dozen questions instantly jump to heed. What exactly are they doing in these secret Ukrainian bio labs? Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe. It's hardly a hotbed of biomedical research. We're assuming these weren't pharmaceutical labs, probably not developing new Leukemia drugs. From your answer, Toria Nuland, we would assume because you all but said it, that at that place'due south a military application to this research, that they were working on bioweapons. Again, your answer suggests that.

Why would we fund something similar that in Ukraine, and why didn't yous secure the contents of these bio labs before the Russians arrived as you knew they would? And then why did yous get out of your way to lie to the American public well-nigh all of this? If the "enquiry materials" in these labs were to escape somehow and you seem very concerned most that, what would be the result on Ukraine then on the rest of the world? How tin can nosotros set for the consequences of that, this thing that you're worried about? Shouldn't we be preparing? Considering as it turns out, nosotros've simply spent the last two years living with the pathogen that began in another strange bio lab funded by the United States government secretly.

Then, this question is on our mind. It seems fair. Now that's some of what we would have asked if nosotros were U.S. Senators, which were not. Yep, there's a time limit. Time limit be damned because this is kind of important, merely Rubio did not ask those questions. Instead, he changed the subject and told u.s.a. once again that Vladimir Putin is bad.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO: If there is a biological or chemical weapon incident or... assail inside of Ukraine, is there any incertitude in your heed that 100%, information technology would be the Russians that would be behind it?

VICTORIA NULAND:  There is no doubt in my mind, senator, and it is archetype Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves.

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Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., speaks during the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) at The Rosen Shingle Creek on Feb. 25, 2022, in Orlando, Florida. 

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., speaks during the Bourgeois Political Action Briefing (CPAC) at The Rosen Shingle Creek on February. 25, 2022, in Orlando, Florida. (Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

OK, merely get a pen. It'south a classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy, what they are planning to do themselves. That'south what Toria Nuland said. We almost laughed out loud. So, what you're maxim, Toria Nuland, if, for example, you lot were funding secret bio labs in Ukraine, but wanted to hibernate that fact from the people who are paying for it, in whose proper noun you were doing information technology, and then you might lie most it by claiming the Russians were lying virtually it. In other words, you might mount a disinformation campaign by challenge the other guy was mounting a disinformation campaign. Is that what you're maxim, Toria Nuland? It's pretty funny.

What'southward not funny is that this is all entirely real. Nosotros invited Marco Rubio on the evidence this night to tell us what he knows about these bio labs. He declined to come up. That invitation remains open. In the meantime, let's review what niggling we exercise know about this. We're going to start with a spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry on Sunday. At present, we would never do this. We never played anything like this on the testify earlier because of course, we're Americans and when we want to know what'due south going on nosotros ask our ain officials, the people we elect and whose salaries we pay, because information technology's our land.

We don't go to strange sources considering we trust our ain sources first. Only when it turns out the people who correspond us and run our government are lying to united states of america and never repent for it and doing horrific things in our names, then you have to open your mind a little bit and at to the lowest degree assess what other people are proverb. So, here was the Russian merits.

IGOR KONASHENKOV: During the form of the special armed services operation, facts were uncovered of the fundamental regime, mopping up traces of armed services biological program under development in Ukraine, financed by the U.Due south. Defense Ministry.

OK. So, that plain—we hadn't seen that until this afternoon we started poking effectually—that may have been the root of the conspiracy theories that the fact checks told us were Russian disinformation. Let's quote it: "Armed services biological programs are under development in Ukraine, financed by the U.South. Defense Ministry." That'south the Russian claim.

Separately, a Russian Foreign Ministry building spokesman said the Ukrainians were working on mortiferous pathogens, including plague and anthrax. Is that truthful? Now, obviously, nosotros would not take Russia's give-and-take for that ever, just we don't have to take Russia's word for that. The U.S. Defence Department has a website that contains this media clip most the opening of a biological research facility in Ukraine in 2010.

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Chief of the Media Service and Information Directorate of the Russian Defence Ministry, Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov, gives a press briefing on the situation in the Idlib buffer zone in Syria. 

Main of the Media Service and Information Directorate of the Russian Defence force Ministry, Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov, gives a press briefing on the situation in the Idlib buffer zone in Syria. (Vadim SavitskyTASS via Getty Images)

"U.S. Senator Dick Lugar applauded the opening of the Interim Central Reference Laboratory in Odessa, Ukraine, this week, announcing that information technology will be instrumental in researching unsafe pathogens used by bioterrorists. The level-3 bio-safety lab will be used to written report anthrax, tularemia and Q Fever, as well as other dangerous pathogens."

Oh, OK. Then the National Pulse dug up 2011 report from the U.S. National Academy of Sciences that besides explained that the Odessa based laboratory "is responsible for the identification of especially unsafe biological pathogens." So, what we're doing—this is non the first time you've heard this story—we are funding the creation of mortiferous pathogens so we tin can study them and prevent people from getting infected with them. Maybe? There are lots of examples of this. The U.Southward. Embassy in Ukraine has a handy web page explaining that American and Ukrainian scientists take worked on a whole bunch of unlike experiments like this.

Some of the projects include work on African swine fever virus, hemorrhagic fever virus, and various respiratory viruses. The interesting matter, the telling thing, is that the U.S. Embassy's website too contains links to fact sheets about America'south support for biological research in Ukraine, just all those links are now dead. That'south weird. It's our government. We pay for it. Again, they're there in our name, in the name of American citizens, but we tin can no longer read their spider web folio. How does that work, exactly? They have no right to lie to us.

The web page is archived, thankfully, and the fact sheets show Defense force Department funding to laboratories in Ukraine. And so that looks similar proof. It'due south non Russian disinformation. It'due south totally existent. Distressing United states Today, America's newspaper, information technology's existent. Yous tin can expect it up on the internet if yous want. In the face of that testify, the Pentagon is still lying about and in fact, they're repeating the same unbelievably stupid and now thoroughly discredited lies the fact checkers have told for weeks now. Here's the spokesman for the Pentagon, John Kirby, today.

JOHN KIRBY:  The Russian accusations are absurd. They're laughable and, you know, in the words of my Irish Catholic grandad, a agglomeration of malarkey. There's goose egg to information technology. Information technology'south archetype Russian propaganda and I wouldn't, if I were y'all,...I wouldn't give it a drop of ink worth...paying attention to.

REPORTER: Yeah, merely can you explain to u.s.a. what...has there been any relationship betwixt the...?

JOHN KIRBY:  We are non, non, developing biological or chemical weapons inside Ukraine. It'due south non happening.

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If I were you, I wouldn't devote a drop of ink to it. Offset of all, you didn't get to brand that decision, Mr. Bureaucrat. We take a free press in this state. You don't get to determine, only you'll discover at the end of that, Kirby refuses to reply the question. Has there been whatever relationship betwixt the U.S. Pentagon and a bioweapons facility in Ukraine and if and so, what is that relationship? That's Russian disinformation! What'south the answer? We're not developing WMD in Ukraine correct at present! OK, got it, only why are we funding this and what exactly are we funding?

We reached out to the State Department separately and they provided us with this very carefully worded statement: "The U.S. Department of Defense force does not ain or operate biological laboratories in Ukraine." Not that anyone said they did. Continuing the quote, "Undersecretary Nuland was referring to Ukrainian diagnostic and biodefense laboratories during her testimony, which are not biological weapons facilities." What's the divergence exactly? Continuing the quote, "These institutions counter biological threats throughout the country."

So that means nothing. You could depict our nuclear stockpile correctly as defensive. Our nuclear weapons are not designed to preemptively kill anybody. They're designed to prevent other people from killing u.s.a., but they're yet nuclear weapons. So, when you lot stop lying and telling the states what'southward going on here and why don't you lot more than specifically tell us why you didn't secure these materials? So, yeah, we're funding secret bio labs in Ukraine, merely they are diagnostic and biodefense laboratories that counter biological threats.

OK, if these are purely defensive labs, why was Toria Nuland so concerned that Russians would go ahold of the materials from these facilities? Other world powers have come to the obvious conclusion. Once again, we hate to exercise this, merely nether these circumstances, nosotros asked our own spokespeople, they lied. Nosotros're going to the Foreign Ministry of China, a land we despise. Here's what they said today. They're calling on weapons inspectors to have a look at these facilities in Ukraine right abroad.

ZHAO LIJIAN: Over the past 2 decades, the U.s. has been blocking the establishment of a verification government to the Biological Weapons Convention and refused to accept the inspection of biological facilities within and outside its borders. The move has farther aggravated the concern of the international customs. We, once once again, urge the U.S. to provide total description of its bio militarization activities inside and outside its borders and have multilateral verification.

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Oh, they're putting Russian and Chinese propaganda on the screen! Aye, we did. Nosotros also put U.S. regime propaganda on the screen and the departure is we expect to be lied to past foreign governments. We're not globalists. We believe in 1 country. It's this land, the U.s.a.. We practice non wait to be lied to by our regime and we won't have it. Simply let's become to the substance of what the Chinese government but said. We never concord with the Chinese government on anything, only in this case, they make a off-white signal. We now know that unsafe biological agents, whether y'all call them weapons or non is completely irrelevant because they tin can be used every bit weapons. Is a gun a weapon? Non when you're quail hunting. When yous're in a gunfight, it is. It's a ridiculous semantic debate.

Unsafe biological agents remain, thank you to the Biden administration, unsecured in a cluttered state of war zone. At some point we need to know how that happened, who made those decisions. We accept a right to know and let'due south promise someone in Congress, probably not Marco Rubio, but someone else, volition get to the lesser of it, but in the concurrently, we pray that somewhere, in the U.s.a. government, in that location as an adult who cares enough to get this situation under command immediately.

This article is adjusted from Tucker Carlson'south opening commentary on the March 9, 2022 edition of "Tucker Carlson Tonight."